SONGSOPTOK: The
personal make up of each person in all societies seems to be fashioned by
religion. What is your opinion about that?
SILAS
OLAOYIN ABAYOMI: Individual make up no doubt, has a great
impact on how everyone responds to
external stimuli from immediate society;
however, our personality make up is not “fashioned by religion,” rather people have allowed
religion to over-run or out pass their individual personality and genetic code,
which defines individual as a distinct
entity. Unfortunately, however, religion either in the past or present has
altered, modified, and re-arranged individual in such a way that makes mind and the entire body become a
zombie, ease to control by someone or group of individual they listen to daily, weekly, or periodically seen
or unseen; always behind a lectern on a platform at agora.
SONGSOPTOK: In your opinion, are
religious beliefs related to communal sentiments or to spiritual consciousness?
SILAS
OLAOYIN ABAYOMI: From my study and research on various religions,
what I found about religious beliefs, creeds, doctrines, and theologies are
mostly cultural values that these self-styled leaders synthesized and
gravitated toward spiritual concepts to hoodwink their adherents. No wonder,
religions only control humans through or by impulse, but lacking the moral
power, fiber, and spiritual fortitude to lead or to demand obedience from heart
from their members.
SONGSOPTOK: Do you think that respecting
religious ideas or ideals can be considered as religious fundamentalism?
SILAS
OLAOYIN ABAYOMI: It is both ways-a religion that preaches
against evil, encourages members to uphold a path of moral rectitude in face of
tyranny can’t be said to be tilting toward fundamentalism. On the other hand, a
religion that subtly uses its beliefs or creeds to preach, encourage, and to
promote hate among fellow humans; more so, requesting adherents to toe the line
of hate can’t be anything, but fundamentalism.
SONGSOPTOK: What,
in your opinion, is the relationship between religious beliefs and
fundamentalism? Does practicing a religion lead to fundamentalism?
SILAS
OLAOYIN ABAYOMI: If we go by Dictionary definitions of Beliefs and Fundamentalism,
to a reasonable extent, they differ; on the other hand, should we consider the
fruits the modern-day religions bear and judging by the conducts of their
leaders and members-one would say, their beliefs are nothing, but tilting
toward fundamentalism. If one says, beliefs, according to Webster Dictionary
are: “a tenet or body of tenets held by a group” and fundamentalism as: “a
movement or attitude stressing strict and literal adherence to a set of basic
principles”; but within this context or parameters, if religious members or
groups are not ready to budge or yield to rational thinking, but even going as
far as using extra-judicial means to accomplish their beliefs- it could be said,
such beliefs or creeds are, but fundamentalism.
SONGSOPTOK: A certain section of all
human society has exploited religion to personal end-religion seems to be a
sound business proposal. What is your opinion about this? Do you think that
these people are intentionally fanning the flame of fundamentalism all over the
world? What, in your opinion, should be done to prevent this?
SILAS
OLAOYIN ABAYOMI: Religions throughout the centuries, even to this day have
become tools of subjugation and means of controlling majority by a few. To
maintain their strong hold on the people, ancient religious leaders created and
instilled morbid fear into people hearts; the psychology of fear is, in fact,
an excellent tool to subjugate mankind. The tool is still maintained and
sustained by modern or present day religious leaders. To enrich themselves, past
religious leaders devised several means and methods to fleece their flocks;
more so, the present day leaders are not different, they have perfected old methods,
maintained them, and have expanded their scope.
But if we want this trend
to stop, government world-wide should look at those religious groups or
(bazaars) that place commercialism ahead spiritualism duties and tax them just
like business organizations; treat clergy, religious orders, cleric,
ecclesiastic, mullah, sheikh, imam, Brahman, bonze, lama, talapoin, yogi,
priest, just like normal citizens under the law; accord them no special
privileges and no immunities. Same also applies when answering to their
conducts before the law, must allow rule of law runs its full course.
SONGSOPTOK: It seems
that the huge wave of fundamentalism sweeping the whole world dates from the
time of the fall of the Soviet empire and socialism. Do you think that there is
a link between the two? If so, what are your thoughts about it?
SILAS
OLAOYIN ABAYOMI: Socialism-the economic and political ideology
of the 20th century defunct USSR, no doubt had some impacts on the rise of both
human rights movement and fundamentalism in Christendom-and-Muslim-populated-Soviet
territories and those in South Asia territories. Just as Socialism saw
Capitalism-the economic ideology that thrives on oppressed workers in concert
with organized religion as being evil;
so are people on other divide (religions) saw Socialism as evil; perhaps more
than evil.
As socialism attacked religions
within and outside its territories with ferocity, so religions responded by
creating a bitter hatred to Socialism. In several quarters, the general belief
was organized religion like Roman Catholic Church helped in liquidating or
destroyed Socialism and communism in former communist countries of Eastern
Europe. Remember Poland, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Hungary,
Romania, and East Germany. To date, people still hold late Pope John Paul 11
(Karol Josef Wojtyla) in high esteem for his strong fight against communism in
his native land-Poland. Also, as the Afghan Muslims fought the Soviets in the
seventies to a stand-still. In fact,
religion and politics have always been at each other’s neck, the dynamics or
inter-play at times has resulted in strong opposition to each other with name
calling such: fundamentalist, undemocratic, and dictatorship.
SONGSOPTOK: Do you think that there is a
link between fundamentalism and subsequent development of capitalism as can be
observed in places like Afghanistan?
SILAS
OLAOYIN ABAYOMI: Just like Socialism with its so-called good
intents gave room to the rise of fundamentalism, so with Capitalism, which is
even worse; even though, capitalism presents self as the ultimate- both the
political and economic ideology with human heart and mind, ideology that
accommodates religion, promotes human rights; this self-praise is a mere
outward show. In fact, Capitalism has tactically encouraged fundamentalism more
than any political ideology ever known in history.
Since capitalism thrives on wealth, sweat, and labor created by others,
capitalism always close eyes to evil created by non-conformists as long as its
wealth remains un-hurt and proceeds keep flowing in. But as soon as capitalist’s
wealth or source of wealth comes under a threat, then “non-conformists” become
a terror group-this giant with its lieutenants (those that share its beliefs) will
rise and move against the so-called enemy.
The situation in
Afghanistan, Iran, and Iraq is knowingly and, or perhaps without bad intents,
but innocently enthroned fundamentalism subtly from the background; but as soon
as it becomes a deadly octopus, the threat from it stares capitalism in the
face.
SONGSOPTOK: This in turn raises the question
of relationship between religious faith and fundamentalism. What is your
opinion? Can fundamentalism be
considered as a means for developing capitalism?
SILAS
OLAOYIN ABAYOMI: To a reasonable extent, yes, because
capitalism thrives and survives on sweat of others; more so, Capitalism depends
on others to do its dirty job in its quest for wealth. But as soon as
fundamentalists realize they are being used for a selfish end, more important,
when their “values and interests” are not served, or relationship is not mutual
and un-equal they (fundamentalists) react violently.
SONGSOPTOK: What, according to you
should be done to prevent the rise of fundamentalism all over the world?
SILAS
OLAOYIN ABAYOMI: A Fundamentalism is
already here and it has come to stay; however, there are certain things that
can be done to checkmate it at global level: Nations with fundamentalists or
tilting toward fundamentalism should be isolated from all fronts. Powerful/prosperous
western nations should stop playing double standard games or cards with nations
tilting toward fundamentalism and punish nations with same bad behaviors. Certain
nations are labelled “axis of evil,” “iron curtain,” “nations without
democratic ideas or culture”; these should also apply to nations financing,
harboring, and supporting fundamentalism. If done, the wings of fundamentalists
will be clipped.
SONGSOPTOK: There
seems to be a correlation between the level of economic development and the
rise of fundamentalism- some of the poorest regions of the world bear testimony
to the fact. How important is education and economic development for fighting
fundamentalism?
SILAS
OLAOYIN ABAYOMI: No doubt the two basic elements will be needed
now, more important, in the future to fight fundamentalism. With sound and
quality education and economic empowerment for the women; the trigger that
always pulls fundamentalist cord will be severed. People will be more rational,
the combined effects and impacts of education and economic empowerment will
prevent the future spread of fundamentalism.
SONGSOPTOK: Can
atheism be an effective weapon for fighting fundamentalism? Or do you consider
atheism to be another form of fundamentalism?
SILAS
OLAOYIN ABAYOMI: Atheism or atheists will
never be equal in power with organized religions-where fundamentalism is
raised, cultivated, and nurtured. Even, if atheism wins the battle in the western
world, it will fail in Africa, South America, and Middle East/Arabian
Peninsula, most parts of Asia, Indian sub-continent, Southeast Asia, and
significant portions of China, Korea, and Japan.
Atheism may never rise to
the boiling point of becoming a concept or ideology on a global scale. However,
I see atheism as a future social movement just like Gay/Lesbian Movements, or
female ordination (in organized religions) contending with traditional values,
which may take a long time before the general public will breathe life into it.
SONGSOPTOK: Do
you think that internet can become a powerful means for preventing the rise of
fundamentalism? Or do you think that Internet & social media are, on the
contrary, helping fundamentalism to spread far & wide at a much faster
rate?
SILAS
OLAOYIN ABAYOMI: I see internet and social media as double edged
sword, as it tries to prevent the spread of fundamentalism through network; so
the fundamentalists will use the same tools to propagate their ideologies, beliefs, and values, wherever and wherever possible. We
are eye witnesses to all terror organizations around the globe as they are
using social media effectively to create, manage, and to sustain their
activities; this trend, will continue at least, for now. As new tools and
inventions keep coming out now and in the future, both for and against will
always adopt and deploy these new techniques because of their benefits; and more
so, for their survival.
[SILAS
OLAOYIN ABAYOMI: POET AND WRITER]