SONGSOPTOK: Most Bengalis are introduced to Rabindranath through
‘Sahaj Paath’. With that introduction, people become familiar with him in their
own ways. Can you share with us how you
developed that relationship?
PUPU: SahajPath was the first book series that I started to read on my own. Though I had began
my preliminary introduction to Bengali with Barna Porichoy of Iswarchandra
Vidyasagar and Adarshalipi, Sahaj Path with its bold lettering, and unique illustration by the great artist Nandalal
Bose attracted my two year old heart like a magnet. As it was so scientifically
written and printed for children it was fun to complete my independent reading
tasks. I went from letters to words,from words to simple but picturesque
sentences within days. And it all felt like such an interesting game.
SONGSOPTOK: If we analyze
carefully, we will see a gradual unfolding of Rabindranath in us through
different stages of our life, from childhood to adulthood. We may not be
prepared for this evolution, but Rabindranath leads us through this
developmental process to the blooming of our lives. Can you share with us how
your personall development was influenced by Rabindranath?
PUPU: I was a lonely
child of working parents. Books were my only friends ,surrounding me lovingly
in our oneroom small flat.
He became my secret best friend
within the age of five.He knew my sorrows of staying alone without my mom ,he
spoke about it so fluently in lines of Shishu, the book of verse. He knew my
heart's fluttering when the clouds came down grey and heavy at the end of
scorching summer day. He knew about my fears as I faced the exams where I had
to come out at the top without fail. No matter what I felt he had written about
it already in those lovely yellow pages of Rabindra Rachanabali.was on the lips
of my parents all round the day,humming while I brushed my teeth, getting ready
for their offices, packing my school bag. Even when we met at the evening ,my
father would inevitably quote a few lines of Tagore's poems while taking off
his sweat drenched shirt, and my mom would add the next lines while handing him
his large glass of water, with a twinkle in her weary eyes. That's what Tagore
meant to me, a twinkle in the eyes, a cool refreshment in a fatigued day, a
royal richness in a small middle class residence.
I was a lonely child of working
parents. Books were my only friends ,surrounding me lovingly in our oneroom
small flat.
He became my secret best friend
within the age of five.He knew my sorrows of staying alone without my mom ,he
spoke about it so fluently in lines of Shishu, the book of verse. He knew my
heart's fluttering when the clouds came down grey and heavy at the end of
scorching summer day. He knew about my fears as I faced the exams where I had
to come out at the top without fail. No matter what I felt he had written about
it already in those lovely yellow pages of Rabindra Rachanabali.Well, I have
always loved his music unconsciously, as it was on the lips of my parents all
round the day,humming while I brushed my teeth, getting ready for their offices,
packing my school bag. Even when we met at the evening ,my father would
inevitably quote a few lines of Tagore's poems while taking off his sweat
drenched shirt, and my mom would add the next lines while handing him his large
glass of water, with a twinkle in her weary eyes. That's what Tagore meant to
me, a twinkle in the eyes, a cool refreshment in a fatigued day, a royal
richness in a small middle class residence.
I was a lonely child of working
parents. Books were my only friends ,surrounding me lovingly in our oneroom
small flat.
He became my secret best friend
within the age of five.He knew my sorrows of staying alone without my mom ,he
spoke about it so fluently in lines of Shishu, the book of verse. He knew my
heart's fluttering when the clouds came down grey and heavy at the end of
scorching summer day. He knew about my fears as I faced the exams where I had
to come out at the top without fail. No matter what I felt he had written about
it already in those lovely yellow pages of Rabindra Rachanabali., I have always
loved his music unconsciously, as it was on the lips of my parents all round
the day,humming while I brushed my teeth, getting ready for their offices,
packing my school bag. Even when we met at the evening ,my father would
inevitably quote a few lines of Tagore's poems while taking off his sweat
drenched shirt, and my mom would add the next lines while handing him his large
glass of water, with a twinkle in her weary eyes. That's what Tagore meant to
me, a twinkle in the eyes, a cool refreshment in a fatigued day, a royal
richness in a small middle class residence.
I was a lonely child of working
parents. Books were my only friends ,surrounding me lovingly in our oneroom
small flat.
He became my secret best friend
within the age of five.He knew my sorrows of staying alone without my mom ,he
spoke about it so fluently in lines of Shishu, the book of verse. He knew my
heart's fluttering when the clouds came down grey and heavy at the end of
scorching summer day. He knew about my fears as I faced the exams where I had
to come out at the top without fail. No matter what I felt he had written about
it already in those lovely yellow pages of Rabindra Rachanabali.Well, I have
always loved his music unconsciously, as it was on the lips of my parents all
round the day,humming while I brushed my teeth, getting ready for their
offices, packing my school bag. Even when we met at the evening ,my father
would inevitably quote a few lines of Tagore's poems while taking off his sweat
drenched shirt, and my mom would add the next lines while handing him his large
glass of water, with a twinkle in her weary eyes. That's what Tagore meant to
me, a twinkle in the eyes, a cool refreshment in a fatigued day, a royal
richness in a small middle class residence.
I was a lonely child of working
parents. Books were my only friends ,surrounding me lovingly in our oneroom
small flat.
He became my secret best friend
within the age of five.He knew my sorrows of staying alone without my mom ,he
spoke about it so fluently in lines of Shishu, the book of verse. He knew my
heart's fluttering when the clouds came down grey and heavy at the end of
scorching summer day. He knew about my fears as I faced the exams where I had
to come out at the top without fail. No matter what I felt he had written about
it already in those lovely yellow pages of Rabindra Rachanabali.Well, I have
always loved his music unconsciously, as it was on the lips of my parents all
round the day,humming while I brushed my teeth, getting ready for their offices,
packing my school bag. Even when we met at the evening ,my father would
inevitably quote a few lines of Tagore's poems while taking off his sweat
drenched shirt, and my mom would add the next lines while handing him his large
glass of water, with a twinkle in her weary eyes. That's what Tagore meant to
me, a twinkle in the eyes, a cool refreshment in a fatigued day, a royal
richness in a small middle class residence.
I was a lonely child of working
parents. Books were my only friends ,surrounding me lovingly in our oneroom
small flat.
He became my secret best friend
within the age of five.He knew my sorrows of staying heart's fluttering when
the clouds ca
SONGSOPTOK: Which aspect of Rabindranath most impacted your young
adulthood?
PUPU: Well, I have always loved his music unconsciously, as it
was on the lips of my parents all round the day,humming while I brushed my
teeth, getting ready for their offices, packing my school bag. Even when we met
at the evening ,my father would inevitably quote a few lines of Tagore's poems
while taking off his sweat drenched shirt, and my mom would add the next lines
while handing him his large glass of water, with a twinkle in her weary eyes.
That's what Tagore meant to me, a twinkle in the eyes, a cool refreshment in a
fatigued day, a royal richness in a small middle class residence.
I was a lonely child of working
parents. Books were my only friends ,surrounding me lovingly in our oneroom
small flat.
He became my secret best friend
within the age of five.He knew my sorrows of staying alone without my mom ,he
spoke about it so fluently in lines of Shishu, the book of verse. He knew my
heart's fluttering when the clouds came down grey and heavy at the end of
scorching summer day. He knew about my fears as I faced the exams where I had
to come out at the top without fail. No matter what I felt he had written about
it already in those lovely yellow pages of Rabindra Rachanabal
SONGSOPTOK: How would you
explain the rediscovery of Rabindranath at different phases of life? Won’t you
agree that this rediscovery is a consequence of journeying with him? Or do you
feel that this rediscovery happens mostly at the intellectual level instead of being soul-bound?
PUPU: Rabindranath
evolves with different shades at different stages of life.A child finds it's
resonance in his dramas of hasyokoutuk etc, poems of Shishu, Shishu volanath,
khapchara, even Jibonsmriti, Tagore's own childhood memoirs.
A rebel teenager
finds solace and support in his calls to fight convention and praise to the
young blood's craziness in search of truth, vivacity and every thing new.
And of course the
discovery of that great beauty called love.The glory of it.The pain of it,and
the spirituality.
With the passage
of time ,the battle of life, the scars, the wounds, the heart wrenching pain
bewilders one's soul. We come back to Rabindranath. We discover how much
loss,how severe pain he has endured, and gather courage from that. The spirit
of mankind which keeps on singing the songs of light and joy defying death and
sorrow,helps all of us to fight the darkness called destiny.
SONGSOPTOK: Which aspect of
Rabindranath attracts you most and why?
PUPU: he was no old sage. Rather, he was
the rebel who challenged the set protocols. Whether it was dress codes of a
Congress meeting or a social gathering, he invariably broke rules and wanted to
bring about changes. In thoughts, in logical thinking, in day to day life, in
relationship equations, everywhere.
That is why I loved him.
My fellow
rebel with a gentle heart,and aesthetic expression. Oh, and his herculean
capacity to endure pain. Pangs of separation. Agony of nearest one's death. One
after another. And still the daring to sing. Yes , I drank from his spirted
lines like a drought parched tree sucked water from far beneath the ground,
grabbed his words of courage as swords to fight battles where love turned into
betraying masks, friends turned into scheming foes, and fought. His words
bathed my wounds. Made me stand tall inspite of belittling jeers. Reminded me
not to tarnish myself by becoming vengeful or malicious. He gently murmured in
my ears to carry on my journey. To become a beautiful wandering ministrel, a
diva.
The day my uncle came back in a
coffin at the age of fortyeight , leaving behind my cousin sister of sixteen
years, the same age as mine, my dad sang Tagore's song through out the night
after coming back from the burning ghat. When my pa prepared for his own
departure he sang the beautiful songs to me, one after another preparing me for
the pain. I walked down the steps of Ganga with the warm bones of both parents
holding the hands of Tagore's words. And he never left my side.
SONGSOPTOK: Can you comment
on the influence of Rabindranath in your personal life and on your cultural
engagements?
PUPU: From my view towards life,to my
experiments in dresses,from my lack of taboo,to my courage to choreograph and
dance in recitals on stage at the age of fortyseven with a couple of teenage
children, every thing is the influence of Tagore,and that of my parents and
teachers of my school Navanalanda, who engraved Tagore on my brain and soul ,so
lovingly.
SONGSOPTOK: We are all aware of the immense influence that
Rabindranath exerts on the modern Bengali society. However, the guidance that
he provided about societal development has not been pursued. He emphasized
rural economic self-reliance. He wanted to establish cooperative system as a
way to counter capitalism. We chose to ignore his views. How would you address
this topic?
PUPU: The research that
Tagore conducted was and still is very
relevant in socioeconomic arena. But whether that can be implemented by
politically handicapped government agencies ,I really do not know.
SONGSOPTOK: There is another issue that Rabindranath unequivocally
championed – the importance of mother language in education! He argued that
children should be instructed only in their mother tongues till the age of
twelve. On the other hand, Bengali parents would like to send their children to
English-medium schools if they can afford to do so. What is your opinion on
this issue?
PUPU: I beg to differ.I
have been brought up by an English medium school,which paradoxically has a
branch in shantiniketan, and followed Tagore's principles in all other aspects.
Having the arrows of both English and Bengali in my quiver helped me immensely
in the battlefield of life.
SONGSOPTOK: We are all too enamored about globalization, yet we lack
interest to (re)introduce Rabindranath globally. What is your opinion? How and
who can be trusted with that responsibility?
PUPU: This I am not
really in a position to answer.I donot have sufficient data input in this
field.
SONGSOPTOK: Is
Rabindranath’s relevance among the younger generations on the decline? If so,
what is the cause of that?
PUPU: We are. We who
for a couple of generations tried our level best to encase and cage this
firebrand evergreen personality inside an iconic straight jacket of closed eyed
reverence and close lipped style of vocal singing and most non-rabindric dull and traditional lifestyle. I always feel
disgusted to see lifeless dressing and spiritless non radical lifestyle being advertised as Rabindric. In
my opinion if Tagore was alive in flesh and blood he would have lead a huge revolution
against this pattern. Thank God, at least some experiments are being done with
Tagore after the end of copyright era.Some of them are horrendous. But
experiments will always produce some disasters. That should not stop us or the
youth from the delights of trying fresh
outlooks. Now , genext is rediscovering Tagore. Bless them.
SONGSOPTOK: Rabindranath
emphasized the need to develop egalitarian views instead of egocentric ones.
Unfortunately, we as a society are receding into our impenetrable egotistic
armor. How much has this behavior impacted you?
PUPU: Our journeys are
being restricted every day by the shackles of materialistic consumerism. It's
tiring. It is sick. Reminds me of Tagore's oracle,"rat koto holo uttor
mele na.." Wecan not fathom the depth of this darkness, but as we see in
this paricular poem, Shishu thirtho, am optimistic, am a friend and disciple of
Tagore , ultimately, the glory will be of the new born. Humanity will win.
SONGSOPTOK: What is your optimism about the
relevance of Rabindranath in Bengal of the future generations?
PUPU: " joy hok
manusher,oi nobo jatoker, oi chiro jibiter......" Let glory be for
humanity, for the new born, for the eternal life.....
[SONALI PUPU: POET WRITER DANCER AND MEDICAL PRACTITIONAR]
nice pupu...as usual
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